Bad Beat Poker Rules

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As the odds of hitting a bad beat in poker increases, the jackpot will be hit more frequently, subsequently meaning the amount to be won will usually be lower. Bad Beat Poker Conclusion. Bad beats in poker are just a normal part of the game. Bad Beat Official Rules Effective May 12, 2011. Property Specific Poker Room Rules will apply where applicable. T he JACKPOT rake is the amount taken from every eligible poker game pot to fund the Bad Beat Jackpot and is separate from and in addition to the House rake. Bad Beat Official Rules November 28, 2011. Property Specific Poker Room Rules will apply where applicable. The JACKPOT rake is the amount taken from every eligible poker game pot to fund the Bad Beat Jackpot and is separate from and in addition to the House rake. The JACKPOT rake from every game will be 10 percent of the pot with a $1.00. “Bad Beat” refers to any specific hand dealt where the best hand beats the 2nd best hand, based on pre-determined criteria. A valid jackpot occurs if the top two hands qualify (see rules below), and all other criteria is met. In addition to these rules, all applicable Orleans General Poker Room rules will apply. QUALIFYING HANDS 1.

brianparkes

Hey Wizard (or anyone),
What is your analysis of the side bet on Four Card Poker called the Bad Beat wager?
It is paid when the player's hand and the dealer's hand are of a value of at least 2 Pair. The player's hand does not have to be higher than the dealer's.
Exampes: Player 2 Pair, Dealer Trips = Bad Beat wager paid for 2 Pair value. Player Flush, Dealer Trips = Bad Beat wager paid for Trips value.
The payouts are:
2 Pair = 4:1
Straight = 6:1
Flush = 25:1
Trips = 100:1
Straight Flush = 10,000:1
4 of a Kind = 25,000:1
The game rules list that the hit frequency is 5.6% and the house edge is 20.3%. Is this correct, especially if you are playing multiple hands at once? Since the dealer is essentially playing 6 card stud (even though only 4 of the cards play), and on your charts on wizardofodds.com, it looks like the dealer should have 2 pair or higher about 20% of the time. I know the hit frequency for a player to get the Aces Up wager (pair of aces or higher) is 18.56%, so the hit frequency for the 2 pair or higher will be slightly less since a pair of Aces do not qualify for the Bad Beat wager.
I've seen a player get paid for the Trips Bad Beat wager 100:1 playing 4 spots quite often. Due to the high payouts, is Shufflemaster's estimation of a house edge of 20% and a hit rate of 5.6% accurate? How would you calculate the hit % if you are playing multiple spots? If the dealer will hit 2 Pair or higher 20% of the time, do the high payout rates make it worth playing if you are playing multiple spots?
Please post if you create an analysis of this on the Four Card Poker section on wizardofodds.com. Thanks for all the great information.

Bad Beat Poker Room Rules

brianparkes

Forgot to post this part: I know the Straight Flush and 4 of a Kind hands will happen very rarely, but what about the Trips over at least Trips wager? Can you expect to get that hand more than 1 in 100 combinations? That is the hand situation that seems to happen often enough with the 100:1 payout odds that seems to hit frequently enough to make me question that the payout amount is high for the frequency of times it will occur.

TheBigPaybak

Forgot to post this part: I know the Straight Flush and 4 of a Kind hands will happen very rarely, but what about the Trips over at least Trips wager? Can you expect to get that hand more than 1 in 100 combinations? That is the hand situation that seems to happen often enough with the 100:1 payout odds that seems to hit frequently enough to make me question that the payout amount is high for the frequency of times it will occur.

It sounds like the bad-beats are based on 5-card straights and flushes, correct?

Lack of prior planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.

DJTeddyBear

Straight = 6:1
Flush = 25:1

These should be almost equal.
The fact is, in 4CP, flushes are slightly MORE common than straights, so they should pay LESS than a straight. But since the Aces Up bet pays more for the flush, this should also pay slightly more for a flush. But your numbers are out of whack.

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brianparkes

The results are based only on the 4 cards that actually play for the player and the dealer.

brianparkes

The odds listed are for the Bad Beat wager only, not part of the Aces Up wagers. I only referenced the Aces Up wager because it is listed to hit around 18% of the time (so excluding the pair of aces, the other 2 pair hands and higher will happen almost as frequently for reference to how often you might be eligible for the Bad Beat wager as long as the dealer has at least 2 Pair).

brianparkes

The full game rules approved for this state (WA) is on page 10 of this link: http://www.wsgc.wa.gov/docs/game_rules/four_card_poker_bbb_progressive.pdf
if you want to reference it

TheBigPaybak

Exampes: Player 2 Pair, Dealer Trips = Bad Beat wager paid for 2 Pair value. Player Flush, Dealer Trips = Bad Beat wager paid for Trips value.

Isn't the last example wrong, then? If the player has a flush and the dealer has trips, then the bad-beat should be paid for Flush value, as a Flush is less than Trips in 4-card?

Lack of prior planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.

brianparkes

The bad beat pays for the lowest of the two hands, but it does not matter who is holding it (the player or the dealer). All that matters is that both have at least 2 pair.

brianparkes

Poker Bad Beat Jackpot Rules

Now I see the confusion, I put the pay table down wrong. My Bad
2 Pair = 4:1
Straight = 15:1
Flush = 25:1
Trips = 100:1
St. Flush = 10000:1
Quads = 25000:1
Looking at the wrong chart, sorry.